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| 1 | F17: //Part three is// |
| 2 | F18: //Conversation// |
| 3 | F17: Part three is a //ni-// |
| 4 | F18: //Sweet// dreams or nightmares. |
| 5 | F17: Yes |
| 6 | F18: Nightmares, this is [?]our[/?] //subject// |
| 7 | F17: //Okay// |
| 8 | F18: //[laugh]// |
| 9 | F17: So what are nightmares hmm... |
| 10 | F18: Hmm, nightmares are bad dreams as //Freddy// |
| 11 | F17: //Yes// |
| 12 | F18: Krueger would say //[laugh]// |
| 13 | F17: //[laugh] yeah// but it's like, well... I personally think that well nightmares are always something like a- bloody or... paranormal or something like //very// |
| 14 | F18: //mm// |
| 15 | F17: scary but they are not because... for example... well I have also had a nightmare about... exams or something and t- it's not like |
| 16 | F18: //[laugh]// |
| 17 | F17: //that bad if you// think like... |
| 18 | F18: Well |
| 19 | F17: //now.// |
| 20 | F18: //my...// nightmare, which was re- really lame, was the thing that I was... afraid to see a nightmare in my dream. |
| 21 | F17: Oh //okay [laugh]// |
| 22 | F18: //[laugh]// just- just really weird, but nightmares sure are scary if they... |
| 23 | F17: //Yeah// |
| 24 | F18: //are// scary. |
| 25 | F17: Yeah they're like... ni- nightmares are dreams that are scary like to you |
| 26 | F18: //Yeah// |
| 27 | F17: //like// you feel anxious or //scared.// |
| 28 | F18: //Scared// in a dream. |
| 29 | F17: Yes |
| 30 | F18: Even if it's not that scary situation you may feel so scared and helpless //or// |
| 31 | F17: //Yeah// |
| 32 | F18: especially the feeling of... being helpless |
| 33 | F17: Yeah //of// |
| 34 | F18: //is// scary. |
| 35 | F17: Yes |
| 36 | F18: and... sorry [laugh] |
| 37 | F17: Yeah [laugh] |
| 38 | F18: according to psychology |
| 39 | F17: Yeah |
| 40 | F18: some people say that it might... you know help us survive //in this// |
| 41 | F17: //[?]our[/?]// |
| 42 | F18: world. |
| 43 | F17: Yeah I- I remember that. |
| 44 | F18: //At least// |
| 45 | F17: //like// |
| 46 | F18: yeah. |
| 47 | F17: Aren't the dreams like... about that something is changing you, it's like- trains you for like //in// |
| 48 | F18: //Yeah.// In the dreams er if you saw a dream that you are flying, it seems that you have... moved on for another level... spiritually or mentally or... psy- phy- physically |
| 49 | F17: Yeah |
| 50 | F18: it depends but... and if you see a dream where your... teeth start to drop out, your going to die. |
| 51 | F17: Yeah |
| 52 | F18: //[laugh]// |
| 53 | F17: //those// are like er //oh well// |
| 54 | F18: //[laugh]// |
| 55 | F17: Okay |
| 56 | F18: Jeez [laugh] |
| 57 | F17: Erm what causes nightmares? |
| 58 | F18: Exams |
| 59 | F17: //[laugh]// |
| 60 | F18: //[laugh]// Sorry no- no- not sorry no- //it's// |
| 61 | F17: //Sorry// not sorry. |
| 62 | F18: it's like... well... erm |
| 63 | F17: Scary things |
| 64 | F18: Yes scary things and if you get traumatized or... //it's er- it just// |
| 65 | F17: //PTSD?// |
| 66 | F18: er yeah, it's just er like... erm scary movie you have seen |
| 67 | F17: //Yeah// |
| 68 | F18: //You might// have nightmares about it, I don't have... like nightmares so //you [inaudible]// |
| 69 | F17: //Mm// |
| 70 | F18: about scary movies but I think like the- they are not like... |
| 71 | F17: [laugh] |
| 72 | F18: from the movie but they can //like be affecting// |
| 73 | F17: //They are the- form the// feeling. //They form// |
| 74 | F18: //Yeah and they// |
| 75 | F17: //the feeling.// |
| 76 | F18: //can be affected by it.// |
| 77 | F17: //My mom// actually saw nightmares from... er... Exorcist for three years. |
| 78 | F18: [fin]Oho[/fin] |
| 79 | F17: //And she was// |
| 80 | F18: //That's like// |
| 81 | F17: Really afraid and I'm "Oh //Mom.//" |
| 82 | F18: //Yeah// [laugh] //yeah.// |
| 83 | F17: //And// I'm like having nightmares from having a nightmare erm //[laugh]//. |
| 84 | F18: //[laugh] Yeah well// like... well it was then but now when you watch //Exorcist// |
| 85 | F17: //Mm// |
| 86 | F18: your like "What?" //[laugh]// |
| 87 | F17: //Yeah [laugh]// |
| 88 | F18: It's- it's not that scary. |
| 89 | F17: But in that time //it was very scary.// |
| 90 | F18: //Like I ha- yeah// I have heard about like my friends that they're mom has seen like nightmares about the Shining //or// |
| 91 | F17: //Yeah// yeah. |
| 92 | F18: or even A Clockwork Orange it's like //I'm [laugh]// |
| 93 | F17: //[laugh]// And then there's us //[laugh]// |
| 94 | F18: //Then there's// us [laugh]. |
| 95 | F17: Yeah we aren't s- afraid of movies because we know they aren't real, but we are |
| 96 | F18: //Yeah// |
| 97 | F17: //afraid// of different things and you can see them from our dreams and... you know the bi- things that you have seen during the day... //come in your// |
| 98 | F18: //Yeah of course.// |
| 99 | F17: dreams |
| 100 | F18: Yeah |
| 101 | F17: and... show themself in a different manner and that might be pretty scary. |
| 102 | F18: Okay... so give an example of a dream you have dreamt, so this isn't a nightmare, just a dream. |
| 103 | F17: Unfortunately I don't remember my dreams very often, they often they... they always turn out to be nightmares in //the// |
| 104 | F18: //Well// |
| 105 | F17: end. |
| 106 | F18: Okay |
| 107 | F17: Well |
| 108 | F18: That's not //[laugh] good// |
| 109 | F18: //[laugh]// |
| 110 | F17: //but// |
| 111 | F18: //well// [laugh] I have one. |
| 112 | F17: //Okay// |
| 113 | F18: //I er// I know that... I was... riding a car I mean I was driving a car |
| 114 | F17: Yeah |
| 115 | F18: and... yeah and there was like this hill, very big hill and I was driving like up the hill and then the car started flying //[laugh] and I was// |
| 116 | F17: //[laugh] I guessed that// |
| 117 | F18: flying and after that... the car started... landing and er we landed safely but then |
| 118 | F17: Okay |
| 119 | F18: there came another hill |
| 120 | F17: [laugh] |
| 121 | F18: and [laugh] |
| 122 | F17: //Oh no.// |
| 123 | F18: //we started// flying again and I was like "Yeah, this is so much fun." But [laugh] //this// |
| 124 | F17: //[laugh]// |
| 125 | F18: this time [laugh] the car started to crash... //and// |
| 126 | F17: //Oh// no. |
| 127 | F18: Erm I saw... er big Chinese... |
| 128 | F17: [laugh] |
| 129 | F18: temple //or// |
| 130 | F17: //Okay// |
| 131 | F18: something like that and it crashed right through it... and there was separate layers [laugh] in the temple and I [laugh] crashlanded in the end |
| 132 | F17: [laugh] |
| 133 | F18: and there was some //angry// |
| 134 | F17: //Oh no.// |
| 135 | F18: Chinese looking at me and I was like I'm sorry |
| 136 | F17: Oh |
| 137 | F18: and after that I think I died //[laugh].// |
| 138 | F17: //Yeah just [laugh] like a comedy,// kind of //but// |
| 139 | F18: //Mm, kind of comedy.// |
| 140 | F17: //Yeah [laugh]// |
| 141 | F18: [laugh] |
| 142 | F17: Well I have like I have many dreams about celebrities I- mhm I //wonder why but// |
| 143 | F18: //[laugh] and teachers.// |
| 144 | F17: I- mhm //[laugh] yeah but I like// |
| 145 | F18: //[laugh] [inaudible]// |
| 146 | F17: er celebrities but er for one dream I have had was like- it was er summer, er it was midsummer... //like the// |
| 147 | F18: //Aah I see.// |
| 148 | F17: holiday and... we... like er were outside and then this British actor //Benedict Cumberbatch just came in a...// |
| 149 | F18: //[laugh]// |
| 150 | F17: like er backyard and... I was like "Oh my God, I love you ee!" //[laugh] and// |
| 151 | F18: //[laugh]// |
| 152 | F17: and then [laugh] and then we- we like and... yeah he was like our guest //in// |
| 153 | F18: //Yeah// |
| 154 | F17: midsummer //festivities.// |
| 155 | F18: //Didn't you see// Johnny Depp making pancakes? |
| 156 | F17: Yeah! That wa- that was fun like Johnny Depp [laugh] in our apartment he made like heart-shaped pan//cakes// |
| 157 | F18: //[laugh]// |
| 158 | F17: with a heart-shaped pan and //and// |
| 159 | F18: //[laugh]// |
| 160 | F17: he had a pink like... what is it? //I don't really know but// |
| 161 | F18: //Yeah [laugh]// |
| 162 | F17: //yeah// and |
| 163 | F18: Outfit, pink //outfit.// |
| 164 | F17: //[laugh] yeah// and er... and my dad came in and he was like "Mmm, they look really good." |
| 165 | F18: //[laugh]!// |
| 166 | F17: //[laugh]!// |
| 167 | F18: [laugh] |
| 168 | F17: It was funny, okay... //erm// |
| 169 | F18: //Of- of// of course we can remember our dreams after waking //up// |
| 170 | F17: //Yeah// |
| 171 | F18: [laugh] we are just [laugh] remember //[inaudible]// |
| 172 | F17: //Yeah I remember// many dreams and //like// |
| 173 | F18: //I don't// r- usually remember dreams, I remember nightmares mostly. |
| 174 | F17: Yeah //maybe// |
| 175 | F18: //Yeah// |
| 176 | F17: Er does dreaming depend on age? |
| 177 | F18: I suppose so since |
| 178 | F17: I think |
| 179 | F18: when I was small I dreamt this nightmare, I was about six or five or really young and I remember watching this... Tintti series |
| 180 | F17: Oh |
| 181 | F18: and... you //[laugh]// |
| 182 | F17: //Yeah// |
| 183 | F18: you remember there's- there's a Himalaya yeti monster... and |
| 184 | F17: Yeah |
| 185 | F18: I saw that monster came... in my room [laugh], I was really afraid of it and yeah but after that my nightmares have become much more... imaginace- mm much more... creative //yeah much more// |
| 186 | F17: //Okay yeah// |
| 187 | F18: creative. |
| 188 | F17: But yeah I don't- well maybe the... it depends on age like |
| 189 | F18: Mhm |
| 190 | F17: Aa of course but I don't remember so much dreams so I- when I was very little so |
| 191 | F18: Mm |
| 192 | F17: I'm sorry but I think they [laugh] they weren't like //the dreams I have now.// |
| 193 | F18: //I saw the Moomins// mm Muumi's monster there as well... I //have// |
| 194 | F17: //Oh// |
| 195 | F18: the- it's- it's changed cha- eh //[laugh]// |
| 196 | F17: //Like the// boogyman. |
| 197 | F18: It's boogyman. |
| 198 | F17: Yeah |
| 199 | F18: Yeah |
| 200 | F17: Okay erm. |
| 201 | F18: Can dreams predict the future? |
| 202 | F17: Well I think... //maybe// |
| 203 | F18: //It// yeah it depends //on// |
| 204 | F17: //like// |
| 205 | F18: the- it depends. |
| 206 | F17: Yeah |
| 207 | F18: I wouldn't really [inaudible] since I don't have any evidence against it or... for it so [laugh] I'm just... |
| 208 | F17: Yeah |
| 209 | F18: Gonna say that it's possible. |
| 210 | F17: Yeah it- it is possible erm I have a little experience but not so much, I don't think it... it just //er// |
| 211 | F18: //Mm// |
| 212 | F17: seems like it or |
| 213 | F18: Mm //and deja vu// |
| 214 | F17: //[?]fortune[/?] or something// |
| 215 | F18: experiences are very... well... weird. |
| 216 | F17: Yeah the- //they are weird, I ha-// |
| 217 | F18: //There's no actual// word for it but it's |
| 218 | F17: Yeah |
| 219 | F18: really... creepy feeling. |
| 220 | F17: Yeah I have them a lot //[inaudible].// |
| 221 | F18: //And// I have actually... it's not a dream but it's more like a fee- er feeling, this sixth sense or //something that// |
| 222 | F17: //Oh yeah// |
| 223 | F18: something is wrong. My mum actually saved my life because she felt that something was wrong |
| 224 | F17: Okay |
| 225 | F18: and something was wrong [laugh] and she saved me, luckily. |
| 226 | F17: Yeah luckily, okay... er... |
| 227 | F18: Do you daydream? |
| 228 | F17: Yeah de- daydreaming okay well a little like there's some //[laugh] things I// |
| 229 | F18: //[laugh]// I live in another world which is my [?]imagined[/?] [laugh]. |
| 230 | F17: Yeah we are quite other wordly //people I think.// |
| 231 | F18: //[laugh]// |
| 232 | F17: //And// |
| 233 | F18: //Yeah// we're weird people. |
| 234 | F17: like er I like... I li- like imagining things like it- what if I become a famous actor or something like that //you know// |
| 235 | F18: //I don't [?]know[/?] [laugh]// [?]be[/?] very different things //[laugh]//. |
| 236 | F17: //Yeah and// I also like i- if I like met some celebrity |
| 237 | F18: Mm |
| 238 | F17: because I really want to talk to like... American or British |
| 239 | F18: //[laugh]// |
| 240 | F17: //[laugh] celebrities// or something. |
| 241 | F18: Yeah... but yeah we do day- [laugh] daydreaming. |
| 242 | F17: Yeah... okay have you had nightmares //[?]my friends[/?] are like// |
| 243 | F18: //[laugh]// |
| 244 | F17: Ooh //many many// |
| 245 | F18: //Well// [laugh]. Most my- most of my dreams are nightmares //and// |
| 246 | F17: //Mhm// |
| 247 | F18: at least |
| 248 | F17: Yeah |
| 249 | F18: the ones I remember are nightmares. I have been killed by a bear for at least five times... in a [laugh] dream //and it was// |
| 250 | F17: //Oh no// |
| 251 | F18: really creepy and I saw these... people without skin, there was just blood and muscles showing around... and they were caged |
| 252 | F17: Ew |
| 253 | F18: in my... dad's house and... I was locked with them... and I was really beginning to worry and I wanted to get out... but... there was this lock and |
| 254 | F17: Yeah |
| 255 | F18: you see it's very simple lock and... when you are awake, you can just... click and it's out but |
| 256 | F17: //Oh// |
| 257 | F18: //during// the dream I was like "Oh my God! I can't //get// |
| 258 | F17: //Yeah// |
| 259 | F18: it open and //then I-// |
| 260 | F17: //Is like [inaudible]// |
| 261 | F18: Yeah... and for once [laugh]... I actually made it out. But things I- I called them hydras for some reason. |
| 262 | F17: //Okay// |
| 263 | F18: //They// started chasing me... and I saw my dad and my... now ex- er... stepmother |
| 264 | F17: Okay |
| 265 | F18: er and my... ex-stepmother's... daughter daugh- daughter and |
| 266 | F17: Yeah |
| 267 | F18: And er we were like "Ooh, where are we going to run?" and my dad and... [CENSORED: forename] started running towards er the bathroom and me and [CENSORED: forename] started running towards the other badroom... ba- bathroom. |
| 268 | F17: [inaudible] |
| 269 | F18: And then I picked some yellow police tape |
| 270 | F17: //Oh// |
| 271 | F18: //and// broke the window... [laugh] //of the [laugh]// |
| 272 | F17: //Okay// |
| 273 | F18: door of the bathroom... and started taping it and then there was snow [laugh] //it started [inaudible]// |
| 274 | F17: //[laugh] Okay// |
| 275 | F18: snow [laugh] and there w- broken window as well and then there was really dark and silent, I think I was alone and I started pulling sausages out of my //sleeves// |
| 276 | F17: //[laugh]// |
| 277 | F18: and //I was// |
| 278 | F17: [laugh] |
| 279 | F18: really hungry and //[laugh]// |
| 280 | F17: //So now it's like turning into comedy.// |
| 281 | F18: //I was like where// is- where is ketchup and |
| 282 | F17: //[laugh]// |
| 283 | F18: //then I// started eating and I was really worried that the- they might hear me [laugh]. |
| 284 | F17: //[laugh]// |
| 285 | F18: //[laugh]// |
| 286 | F17: //That's like// yeah but eh about the lock thing like... in er like nightmares usually when you run //like// |
| 287 | F18: //Yeah// |
| 288 | F17: you are very slow it's //so// |
| 289 | F18: //and you er start //to see// |
| 290 | F17: //[inaudible]// |
| 291 | F18: these... things on the ground and your |
| 292 | F17: Yeah |
| 293 | F18: your... it's really hard to run and |
| 294 | F17: Yeah |
| 295 | F18: you fall on the ground and scream [laugh] |
| 296 | F17: Yeah but er //well// |
| 297 | F18: //[?]Go ahead[/?]// |
| 298 | F17: I have had like quite many er kind of normal nightmares it's //like// |
| 299 | F18: //Yeah// me too. |
| 300 | F17: There's some- always like [?]takes[/?] from my sleeve for example and pulls it on my hair and it's very creepy because //you don't// |
| 301 | F18: //Mmm// |
| 302 | F17: see |
| 303 | F18: Yeah |
| 304 | F17: What it is... and I ha- had a nightmare where actually a demon er showed up to me and it look like... a person and it was... from a... TV series called Supernatural so I think //it's// |
| 305 | F18: //Mmm// |
| 306 | F17: may... come //from// |
| 307 | F18: //Mmm// |
| 308 | F17: there and... it was like- it had yellow eyes... //and// |
| 309 | F18: //[laugh] Yeah// |
| 310 | F17: it's like- usuall like the... demons have black eyes //or// |
| 311 | F18: //Yeah// |
| 312 | F17: red and the yellows are like... like quite creepy and it //threatened// |
| 313 | F18: //Mmm yeah// |
| 314 | F17: me- me and my friends and my family... if //I wouldn't// |
| 315 | F18: //[laugh]// |
| 316 | F17: like sol- sell my soul to it and |
| 317 | F18: //Okay// |
| 318 | F17: //[inaudible]// |
| 319 | F18: good to have a [inaudible] //[laugh]// |
| 320 | F17: //Yeah it's-// it was... terrible [laugh] |
| 321 | F18: Yeah I haven't actually seen the demon in my paranormal dreams. There's just this feeling that something is there... and it starts killing //my// |
| 322 | F17: //Yeah// |
| 323 | F18: friends and... I have seen... my mom being killed in a dream and... it left me alive for some reason and I'm just been //[gasping] [laugh]// |
| 324 | F17: //Yeah. Well I have// also had these demon dreams where the... demon is like just a black mist... like |
| 325 | F18: Yeah |
| 326 | F17: I have... like... trying to get rid of it in a house and it always moves to a different place in my dreams and it's like |
| 327 | F18: Mmm |
| 328 | F17: repeating itself and I like... er er I'm just waiting that I |
| 329 | F18: Mmm |
| 330 | F17: see an other dream like that and |
| 331 | F18: //Mmm// |
| 332 | F17: //I'm// always like there with my... cross necklase //and// |
| 333 | F18: //[laugh]// |
| 334 | F17: I'm like //[laugh] the body of Christ compells you// |
| 335 | F18: //[laugh]// |
| 336 | F17: //[laugh] and it's// |
| 337 | F18: Does it help [laugh]? |
| 338 | F17: [laugh] Yes it's always like... goes away and one time it tried to pull me... like... with it somewhere but I //get rid of// |
| 339 | F18: //Hell [laugh]// |
| 340 | F17: it. //Yeah, to hell// |
| 341 | F18: //[inaudible]//... but once, only once have I seen a movie slasher in my dream... |
| 342 | F17: Yeah |
| 343 | F18: He actually killed me [laugh] //but// |
| 344 | F17: //Mhm// |
| 345 | F18: oh well. But the most scary dreams I have had are the ones that... re... peatedly comes to my mind //and// |
| 346 | F17: //Yeah// |
| 347 | F18: It's like a con- continued story... in... |
| 348 | F17: Mmm |
| 349 | F18: and it's really weird since you know it- it's a dream, it's not supposed to be repeated one and- a- again and again and again. It's really weird to see it. |
| 350 | F17: Yeah |
| 351 | F18: And then the- it's like this demon dream... Where the- where there is no demon actually to be seen. It's just a feeling and it's been... it's been actually... six times that I have seen that //same dream//. |
| 352 | F17: //Yeah// well those kind of dreams are terrible [inaudible] |
| 353 | F18: Nightmares //[laugh]// |
| 354 | F17: //Yeah nightmares// mm. Are we ready? |
| 355 | F18: I think we are |
| 356 | F17: yeah |
| 357 | F18: ready. |
| 358 | F17: Ready. |
| 359 | F18: //[laugh// |
| 360 | F17: //[laugh// |