Conversation 2: F3 and F4

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Instructions given for the speakers
NEWSPAPERS
STUDENT A
You think that newspaper are old-fashioned and that eventually nobody will read them. Instead, people will read their news on the Internet, like you do. You do not read newspapers at all.

STUDENT B
You think that newspapers will survive the age of the Internet. You like to read your daily newspaper and believe in the future of newspapers as well.

COVER AT LEAST THE FOLLOWING TOPICS:
– Starting the dialogue about newspapers
– Student A: expressing your opinion about the future of newspapers
– Student B: expressing your opinion about the future of newspapers
– Continuing the conversation and arguing for your own point of view
– Ending the conversation

Metadata
Title Value
File format (in FUSE) mp3
Discussion tags newspapers, future, digitalization
Recording added to FUSE (date) 23.06.2015
Recorder and sender id 1
Student assessor (university student, MA programme in English Studies) id 13
Teacher id 1
Transcriber id 1
Teacher's assessment based on students' conversation in part III of the exam
CEFR = Common European Framework of Reference for Languages
(see e.g. Europass)
Teacher id = 1
F3
Skill areas in spoken English CEFR School grade
Interaction B2.2 9
Fluency B2.2 9
Pronunciation, intonation and stress B2.1 8
Vocabulary and structures B2.1 8
Grammar B2.1 8
Average value B2.1 8
F4
Skill areas in spoken English CEFR School grade
Interaction B2.2 9
Fluency B1.2 7
Pronunciation, intonation and stress B2.2 9
Vocabulary and structures B2.1 8
Grammar B2.1 8
Average value B2.1 8
Student's assessment based on this conversation in part III of the exam
CEFR = Common European Framework of Reference for Languages
(see e.g. Europass)
Student id = 13
F3
Skill areas in spoken English CEFR
Interaction B2
Fluency B2
Pronunciation, intonation and stress B2
Vocabulary and structures B2
Grammar B2
Average value B2
F4
Skill areas in spoken English CEFR
Interaction B2
Fluency B2
Pronunciation, intonation and stress B2
Vocabulary and structures B2
Grammar B2
Average value B2

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Turns Speakers and utterances
1 F3: What do you think about newspapers? I- I- I usually read my newspapers from my news, from my i- from my iPhone, from er Helsingin Sanomat mm...
2 F4: s- App.
3 F3: The App.
4 F4: Yeah
5 F3: And I think it's a lot better to read from iPhone or from a mobile device because it's a lot more easier you don't have to turn these huge //pages//
6 F4: //[laugh]//
7 F3: and like in a bus when you're sitting next to someone it's nicer if she's reading like this
8 F4: mm
9 F3: not //this//
10 F4: //[laugh]//
11 F4: Well I think it- it's funny that er you think that way because I think like er- I actually tried this Helsingin Sanomat app //in my//
12 F3: //mm//
13 F4: iPhone but er- I think er- it was- it was too small when I- I didn't like my eyes hurted because it was er- the mobile phone is so small and I have to read the text from it so I //prefer//
14 F3: //mm//
15 F4: like the old-fashioned newspapers I think it- it's lovely because er- erm- in like if I have a... a Saturday or Sunday morning I woke up I drink my coffee and then I- then I read the paper //and//
16 F3: //mm//
17 F4: actually Helsingin Sanomat they changed their size to a smaller one so //I think it- it's//
18 F3: //Yeah that's true//.
19 F4: much easier to even though it is still big it's bigger than an iPhone but
20 F3: mm
21 F4: it's still like er- easier to read.
22 F3: I understand the point of mm like there's mo- more [prd]a- at- at- atmospherical[/prd]
23 F4: Yeah //[laugh]//
24 F3: //to// read it from //paper//
25 F4: //Well that's// the real paper
26 F3: but because people are so much in mobile devices and they erm they do f- er go to Facebook and other things so it's like easier to just get lost //in Helsingin Sanomat app//
27 F4: //[laugh]//
28 F3: er than to er take you're bag and take the er newspaper
29 F4: Yeah that's true //because er- e//
30 F3: //but// and also erm because there is so many er links in Facebook //and//
31 F4: //mm//
32 F3: other social media, so you just have to, someone has commented //on some article and then you//
33 F4: //so it- it's just to open that with one click yeah//
34 F3: just click on it and then read it and click the others and I read actually a lot of news, more than I think
35 F4: Mmm
36 F3: through Facebook just rode today like... twenty walls on a bus going to Helsinki.
37 F4: Mm //[inaudible]//
38 F3: And I think it's that more subtle way
39 F4: Mm
40 F3: To read news from the mobile device but when you're erm read the paper you're- you're actually knowing you read news and you
41 F4: Yeah
42 F3: like have to choose "I'm reading news now"
43 F4: Yeah
44 F3: and you think about.
45 F4: Yeah but you had a good point like er that what you said er if you're on a bus
46 F3: Mm
47 F4: or a train or something like using public transport
48 F3: [cough]
49 F4: it- it's much easier, sorry, to have the- the screen the- //the small//
50 F3: //Mhm//
51 F4: screen which you're looking at a- and the news er because if you have this huge newspaper it- it can be like hard to er take it with you
52 F3: Mhm
53 F4: or like I- er and stuff, but I still think like er that I- th- the taking the moment
54 F3: Mm
55 F4: to reading the news it's- it's like //it's very//
56 F3: //and people// need that
57 F4: Yeah people need that //yeah//
58 F3: //for// example the Metro er- the newspaper
59 F4: Mmm
60 F3: which is erm in metro and
61 F4: Yeah
62 F3: in trams //it's like//
63 F4: //You read it// by the way.
64 F3: Yes.
65 F4: Yeah me too.
66 F3: I almost always from Kamppi to Hakaniemi
67 F4: [laugh]
68 F3: I just take the paper //and//
69 F4: //You have this// five minutes
70 F3: //Yeah five minutes//
71 F4: //[inaudible]// [laugh]
72 F3: and that's my moment that's my //newspaper//
73 F4: //Yeah//
74 F3: moment that's not my iPhone //moment//.
75 F4: //[laugh]// that's //great//
76 F3: //no// iPhone moments are all over the day but er newspaper moment is in the
77 F4: Mm
78 F3: metro and morning.
79 F4: And I- I like the habit that er in metros
80 F3: Yeah
81 F4: like specially people read the paper //which//
82 F3: //Yeah//
83 F4: name is metro and it- that is like
84 F3: Mm
85 F4: er yeah many people do that //because//
86 F3: //and// it's a good newspaper it's not like corrupted one.
87 F4: Yeah that's true.
88 F3: I think [laugh]
89 F4: That's true... Yeah. Do you think that er maybe after like twenty years er we're having still er newspapers or do you think that a- all the er old-fashioned newspapers are moving into er //the mobile phones//
90 F3: //I think we have//
91 F4: only?
92 F3: papers still paper is part of our live has been like since Jesus.
93 F4: Yeah. //[laugh]//
94 F3: //So w- the concept of paper// just disappear [laugh].
95 F4: //[laugh]//
96 F3: //[laugh]//
97 F4: //Yeah//
98 F3: //[laugh]// Sorry //[laugh]//
99 F4: //That was a good point [laugh].//
100 F3: //[laugh]//
101 F4: Yeah tha- that's true I- I hope that the paper is not... not getting lost.
102 F3: Yeah
103 F4: But I'm- I'm still er- I'm still having this little fear because er- the technologies taking
104 F3: //Mm//
105 F4: //So// much place place //nowadays//
106 F3: //True//
107 F4: so
108 F3: Mm
109 F4: so I'm- I'm still er- being a little afraid but I'm- I'm counting on people that
110 F3: Yeah
111 F4: I- I think //like people need those papers.//
112 F3: //I think we are s- yeah and// we
113 F4: And they want to keep those papers.
114 F3: Yeah. We are not just like art students who prefer these old-fashioned things there //is//
115 F4: //Mm// I think //there's more yeah.//
116 F3: //many people// who want to erm keep the traditions and
117 F4: Yeah... //and maybe [inaudible]//
118 F3: //I want// that some day I'm reading a newspaper in my own breakfast table //and//
119 F4: //Yeah//
120 F3: like the- my kids would re- remember
121 F4: [laugh]
122 F3: me as a mother who ro- read newspapers
123 F4: //Yeah I think that's//
124 F3: //while she was// drinking coffee.
125 F4: I think the er best way is to use both //the//
126 F3: //Yeah//
127 F4: mobile phones and er newspapers.
128 F3: That's true.

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